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Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Electrathon drivers do not need to have a drivers license. They DO need to be 16 years old. There will also need to be a drivers approval systems set up. -- Edited by Aimee Hart on Monday 11th of February 2013 04:12:17 AM

mhodgertt · mhodgertt

Mike You might consider changing rule 4.4, driver's helmet must be below a straight line drawn from the top of the roll bar to the top of a front tire in the next rule change session. Should a car roll over and the front wheel is collapsed the driver's head is compromised. The line is changed from...

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Add to rule 5 on page 7: The nose area must have a minimum radius of a 3 inch sphere "(6 inch diameter)".

15carsenault · 15carsenault

Can I use a vest that I can put weights into as a ballast?

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Do away with college class and join universities to adult/open class. Only student (HS) and open classes with corresponding battery divisions so four less classes to maintain at races. Rule listing on Page 12.

ProEV · ProEV

I am wondering if there was a specific reason for the minimum track width rule (1.1)? We are thinking about trying to keep our wheels under the bodywork and 24 inches seems wider than necessary.

electrathon · electrathon

We need to require the numbering on the cars be dark numbers on a light backgreoun (Black on white). This could be done on vinyl so that all of the sizes would be consistant and visible. It is almost impossible to read the numbers on the cars durring the race and it is impossible to read them on tape durri...

electrathon · electrathon

1. PROPOSED CHANGE (1/18/13): Page 39. Add the NW inspection sheet to the handbook and eliminate the one in there. Add a place (big letters) for the battery class they are in to the NW inspection sheet as well. -see attachment which is the NW inspection sheet 2. PROPOSED CHANGE (1/18/13...

bobfranz · bobfranz

I have been involved in electrathon for a long time at the high school level. The idea of building a super light chassis and then adding ballast to the driver's weight is not in the best interest of the sport. Why not add the weight to the structure of the vehicle. Weigh the car with the driver in it and have...

Beto · Beto

Teams learn a great deal in designing and fabricating an electric vehicle from the ground up. This takes a vast number of hours and a huge commitment from students, parents, teachers, mentors and directors. With this in mind, what does the forum think about setting two divisions-one for "engi...

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

These are suggestive actions for race hosts and members after a race day. These items are intended as helpful suggestions not as manditory items when placed in a check list. Looking for advice for members after races (i.e. recharging battery, modifications due to warnings, etc.) Looking for tasks...

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Eliminate rule 10.3 and add ground clearance ruling: The minimum ground clearance is to be judged by the cars ability to roll over a 2x2 board that is milled to be 1 ½ x 1 ½.

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Drop rule 15.4 about the closed loop/open loop so there is not any confusion on rules 15.2 and 15.3 and driver being in control. Closed loop means the pit area could be in control of the power of the car.

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): The meaning of the yellow flag on Page 32 needs to be clarified as to represent an immediate danger and to proceed forward with caution till the danger is driven past. In addition, it will be mandatory for race hosts to designate where flaggers will be located on K and K insu...

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Make Rules 3 and 5 a little more clear on what is meant by Bodywork or structural protection from head on and side impact & encloses all of the drivers body parts by changing to BODYWORK OR STRUCTURAL PROTECTION FROM HEAD ON AND SIDE IMPACT AND ENCLOSES ALL OF THE DRIVER...

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Adding a communication ruling as too many kids are on the phone including texting while driving in a race. Some options for consideration under this ruling are: (1) Push to talk radios are permitted as long as the driver is not distracted by the action of PTT. (2) Cell phon...

NCK TECH · NCK TECH

I would like to see a rule like this.When Electronic Lap Counting is being used, anyone transmitting data or using wireless cameras shall notify the race marshal before doing so.The idea behind this is if there is interference to the counting system from another device it can be resolved quickly.

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): There needs to be wording added to the lap counting section (page 35) allowing/encouraging the use of an electronic counting system.

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Enforce number visibility more and offer purchasing option for numbers. We can offer three 6 inch high black numbers on a white block background for $5.00 each letters can be purchased at $2.00 each (these are a bit more, but letters are not sanctioned except for state de...

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

These are suggestive actions for race hosts and members during a race. These items are intended as helpful suggestions not as manditory items when placed in a check list. Looking for advice for members getting checked in (i.e. registering, inspection, practice, clean up, etc.) Looking for tasks t...

Aimee Hart · Aimee Hart

These are suggestive actions for race hosts and members before attending a race. These items are intended as helpful suggestions not as manditory items when placed in a check list. Looking for advice for members building a car Looking for items for members that need to be completed before racing (i....

NCK TECH · NCK TECH

I know I am submitting this a little late but I think it is important to limit what frequencies that are allowed for wireless data streaming so as not to cause interference to electronic lap counters. I am proposing a band on data streaming from 2440 MHZ to 2480 MHZ or zigbee channels 18 to 23 (12 to 17 hex)...

electrathon · electrathon

There needs to be wording added to the lap counting section (page 35) allowing/encouraging the use of an electronic counting system. It may be easy/simple to hand count a race with only a handfull of cars, but it is a near imposability to count a 50 car race on a half mile track with any form of hand cou...

mhodgertt · mhodgertt

Jim I moved your concern to a separate thread that is a little different then the leg protection one. Beltline... I would like to see the beltline increased. I am not talking about gaining weight here but increasing the overall height from the bottom of the frame to at least match the height of the thigh...

TotallyLost · TotallyLost

The new solar class was ment to encorage students to explore a renewable energy class, with a highly "green" forward looking environmental goal. The usable surface area of a typical Electrathon Car, limit's usable solar power to around 100W, with maybe 150W as an upper limit - so maybe a g...

Jim · Jim

Wonderful events last year. I think there are too many vehicle "classes". How about just student and adult. Provisions can be made for other battery types, solar, etc, but still only student and adult classes. Innovations, I think, will help push the evelope to create more efficient car...

electrathon · electrathon

In the NW we have an inspection form that we use all season for each car. The front is very similar to the standard form and the rear shows each race attended and modifications/corections made to the car durring the season. We were having issues with small corrections drivers were told to make to th...

electrathon · electrathon

This topic has been bouncing in the race rules post, I think it is time to make a rule change proposal. Comunication: Push to talk radios are permitted as long as the driver is not distracted by the action of PTT. Cell phones are permitted only when the vehicle is at a stop (such as a breakdown) or when in h...

TotallyLost · TotallyLost

I would like to suggest that "No Flat" Tires and Tubes of the "air foam" variety be allowed. Normal tires when used, should have a significant flat protection liner or flat resistant tube must be used with something like "slime". These two changes should minimize o...

electrathon · electrathon

How about a simple amendment to the ground clearance rule: "The minimum ground clearance is to be judged by the cars ability to roll over a 2x2." This is a fast and easy way to verify durring inspection and makes it easy to test durring construction. Aaron

Topic		Started By	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Driver License Requirement (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Electrathon drivers do not need to have a drivers license. They DO need to be 16 years old. There will also need to be a drivers approval systems set up. -- Edited by Aimee Hart on Monday 11th of February 2013 04:12:17 AM	Aimee Hart	8	3479	Apr 1, 2017 by Olshan10
	RULE CHANGE IDEAS FOR THE 2016/2017 RULE BOOK (Preview) Mike You might consider changing rule 4.4, driver's helmet must be below a straight line drawn from the top of the roll bar to the top of a front tire in the next rule change session. Should a car roll over and the front wheel is collapsed the driver's head is compromised. The line is changed from...	mhodgertt	1	1817	Jan 14, 2015 by mhodgertt
	Nose Cone Area (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Add to rule 5 on page 7: The nose area must have a minimum radius of a 3 inch sphere "(6 inch diameter)".	Aimee Hart	10	2855	Oct 10, 2014 by mhodgertt
	Ballast - Weight Jacket (Preview) Can I use a vest that I can put weights into as a ballast?	15carsenault	2	1953	Oct 7, 2013 by electrathon
	Class Options (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Do away with college class and join universities to adult/open class. Only student (HS) and open classes with corresponding battery divisions so four less classes to maintain at races. Rule listing on Page 12.	Aimee Hart	15	3659	Jul 17, 2013 by electrathon
	Minimum track width rule? (Preview) I am wondering if there was a specific reason for the minimum track width rule (1.1)? We are thinking about trying to keep our wheels under the bodywork and 24 inches seems wider than necessary.	ProEV	4	2366	May 16, 2013 by Ron
	Visible numbering (Preview) We need to require the numbering on the cars be dark numbers on a light backgreoun (Black on white). This could be done on vinyl so that all of the sizes would be consistant and visible. It is almost impossible to read the numbers on the cars durring the race and it is impossible to read them on tape durri...	electrathon	11	3554	May 12, 2013 by electrathon
	2013 rule changes: your input NOW please! (Preview) 1. PROPOSED CHANGE (1/18/13): Page 39. Add the NW inspection sheet to the handbook and eliminate the one in there. Add a place (big letters) for the battery class they are in to the NW inspection sheet as well. -see attachment which is the NW inspection sheet 2. PROPOSED CHANGE (1/18/13...	electrathon	48	6657	May 12, 2013 by Ron
	Change the ballast rules for High School classes (Preview) I have been involved in electrathon for a long time at the high school level. The idea of building a super light chassis and then adding ballast to the driver's weight is not in the best interest of the sport. Why not add the weight to the structure of the vehicle. Weigh the car with the driver in it and have...	bobfranz	7	3099	May 6, 2013 by bd64
	Electric Vehicles From "Scratch" category. (Preview) Teams learn a great deal in designing and fabricating an electric vehicle from the ground up. This takes a vast number of hours and a huge commitment from students, parents, teachers, mentors and directors. With this in mind, what does the forum think about setting two divisions-one for "engi...	Beto	2	1671	May 6, 2013 by mhodgertt
	Advice After Race Day (Preview) These are suggestive actions for race hosts and members after a race day. These items are intended as helpful suggestions not as manditory items when placed in a check list. Looking for advice for members after races (i.e. recharging battery, modifications due to warnings, etc.) Looking for tasks...	Aimee Hart	3	1933	Mar 20, 2013 by Zaine Stapleton
	Ground Clearence (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Eliminate rule 10.3 and add ground clearance ruling: The minimum ground clearance is to be judged by the cars ability to roll over a 2x2 board that is milled to be 1 ½ x 1 ½.	Aimee Hart	2	1977	Mar 15, 2013 by ProEV
	Closed Loop Definition (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Drop rule 15.4 about the closed loop/open loop so there is not any confusion on rules 15.2 and 15.3 and driver being in control. Closed loop means the pit area could be in control of the power of the car.	Aimee Hart	5	3027	Feb 22, 2013 by mhodgertt
	Yellow Flag Use Clarification (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): The meaning of the yellow flag on Page 32 needs to be clarified as to represent an immediate danger and to proceed forward with caution till the danger is driven past. In addition, it will be mandatory for race hosts to designate where flaggers will be located on K and K insu...	Aimee Hart	4	1656	Feb 15, 2013 by mhodgertt
	Stuctural Protection Definition (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Make Rules 3 and 5 a little more clear on what is meant by Bodywork or structural protection from head on and side impact & encloses all of the drivers body parts by changing to BODYWORK OR STRUCTURAL PROTECTION FROM HEAD ON AND SIDE IMPACT AND ENCLOSES ALL OF THE DRIVER...	Aimee Hart	3	1629	Feb 15, 2013 by mhodgertt
	Cell Phone Restrictions (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Adding a communication ruling as too many kids are on the phone including texting while driving in a race. Some options for consideration under this ruling are: (1) Push to talk radios are permitted as long as the driver is not distracted by the action of PTT. (2) Cell phon...	Aimee Hart	3	1985	Feb 12, 2013 by ProEV
	Revised rule for reserving frequencies for electronic lap counting (Preview) I would like to see a rule like this.When Electronic Lap Counting is being used, anyone transmitting data or using wireless cameras shall notify the race marshal before doing so.The idea behind this is if there is interference to the counting system from another device it can be resolved quickly.	NCK TECH	1	1551	Feb 12, 2013 by electrathon
	Electronic Counting Addition (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): There needs to be wording added to the lap counting section (page 35) allowing/encouraging the use of an electronic counting system.	Aimee Hart	1	1504	Feb 11, 2013 by Aimee Hart
	Purchasing Options for Numbers (Preview) PROPOSED CHANGE (2/10/13): Enforce number visibility more and offer purchasing option for numbers. We can offer three 6 inch high black numbers on a white block background for $5.00 each letters can be purchased at $2.00 each (these are a bit more, but letters are not sanctioned except for state de...	Aimee Hart	1	1694	Feb 11, 2013 by Aimee Hart
	Advice During Race Day (Preview) These are suggestive actions for race hosts and members during a race. These items are intended as helpful suggestions not as manditory items when placed in a check list. Looking for advice for members getting checked in (i.e. registering, inspection, practice, clean up, etc.) Looking for tasks t...	Aimee Hart	0	1392	Feb 11, 2013 by Aimee Hart
	Advice Prior to a Race (Preview) These are suggestive actions for race hosts and members before attending a race. These items are intended as helpful suggestions not as manditory items when placed in a check list. Looking for advice for members building a car Looking for items for members that need to be completed before racing (i....	Aimee Hart	0	1450	Feb 11, 2013 by Aimee Hart
	Reserving frequencies for electronic lap counting (Preview) I know I am submitting this a little late but I think it is important to limit what frequencies that are allowed for wireless data streaming so as not to cause interference to electronic lap counters. I am proposing a band on data streaming from 2440 MHZ to 2480 MHZ or zigbee channels 18 to 23 (12 to 17 hex)...	NCK TECH	1	1630	Feb 3, 2013 by electrathon
	lap counting (Preview) There needs to be wording added to the lap counting section (page 35) allowing/encouraging the use of an electronic counting system. It may be easy/simple to hand count a race with only a handfull of cars, but it is a near imposability to count a 50 car race on a half mile track with any form of hand cou...	electrathon	2	1943	Jan 29, 2013 by bgilmore
	SIDE CRASH PROTECTION (Preview) Jim I moved your concern to a separate thread that is a little different then the leg protection one. Beltline... I would like to see the beltline increased. I am not talking about gaining weight here but increasing the overall height from the bottom of the frame to at least match the height of the thigh...	mhodgertt	9	3775	Nov 17, 2012 by Kyle Keenan
	New Class - Human Powered Vehicle with Electric Assist - HPV/E Class HPV Velomobile solar (Preview) The new solar class was ment to encorage students to explore a renewable energy class, with a highly "green" forward looking environmental goal. The usable surface area of a typical Electrathon Car, limit's usable solar power to around 100W, with maybe 150W as an upper limit - so maybe a g...	TotallyLost	35	6810	Nov 15, 2012 by Zaine Stapleton
	2012-2013 Rule Ideas (Preview) Wonderful events last year. I think there are too many vehicle "classes". How about just student and adult. Provisions can be made for other battery types, solar, etc, but still only student and adult classes. Innovations, I think, will help push the evelope to create more efficient car...	Jim	7	2368	Aug 17, 2012 by TotallyLost
	Vehicle inspection form (Preview) In the NW we have an inspection form that we use all season for each car. The front is very similar to the standard form and the rear shows each race attended and modifications/corections made to the car durring the season. We were having issues with small corrections drivers were told to make to th...	electrathon	4	3506	Aug 9, 2012 by Kyle Keenan
	Comunication (Preview) This topic has been bouncing in the race rules post, I think it is time to make a rule change proposal. Comunication: Push to talk radios are permitted as long as the driver is not distracted by the action of PTT. Cell phones are permitted only when the vehicle is at a stop (such as a breakdown) or when in h...	electrathon	7	3231	Jul 7, 2012 by electrathon
	No Flat Tubes - increased course safety (Preview) I would like to suggest that "No Flat" Tires and Tubes of the "air foam" variety be allowed. Normal tires when used, should have a significant flat protection liner or flat resistant tube must be used with something like "slime". These two changes should minimize o...	TotallyLost	2	1854	Jan 12, 2012 by TotallyLost
	Ground clearance (Preview) How about a simple amendment to the ground clearance rule: "The minimum ground clearance is to be judged by the cars ability to roll over a 2x2." This is a fast and easy way to verify durring inspection and makes it easy to test durring construction. Aaron	electrathon	9	2817	Sep 16, 2011 by Stevie G
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